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radar
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USA
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Posted - January 09 2007 :  9:12:47 PM  Show Profile Send radar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
UFO's
There has been UFO's seen way back into the Bible.
An I believe that some how there is a link between Roswell NM, WrightPat Airforce base in Ohio also Area 51 Nevada.
From the state I'm living in it's a hot bed of UFO sighting way back into the 1950's.
Since the late 50's, early 60's There was a Project that came out Wright Pat AF. Called Blue Book. All that was, Was the Air force documentoring sightings that people reported to the authorities. And they ended it in the early 70's.

To Fellow Forum people: What's your take on this subject?


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ChainLightning
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USA
62 Posts

Posted - January 11 2007 :  07:12:54 AM  Show Profile Send ChainLightning a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Honestly? Comic relief.

Though I have no doubts that there IS life elsewhere in the universe, I think it's only mankind's pompous self-righteousness that causes them to think that we (humans) are important enough for extra-terrestrials to *monitor*.

I also think it's absolutely hilarious how everything that is denied is automatically called *a conspiracy* or *a cover-up*. And that, in turn, is used as *proof* (in the debate) of the existence of alien visitors/spacecraft.

I just find the controversy and ensuing debate funny.

It's ESPECIALLY funny when you realize that people are arguing over BELIEF in something that is not empirically proven. It reminds me of the disclaimer from Dragnet; *the names have been changed to protect the innocent*

Replace the word *UFO* with the any of the following words: God, Santa Claus, Bigfoot, Magic(k) - the irony is palpable.

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Vainamoinen
Paganism Forum Moderator



USA
232 Posts

Posted - January 11 2007 :  08:14:08 AM  Show Profile  Visit Vainamoinen's Homepage  Send Vainamoinen an AOL message Send Vainamoinen a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think you're closer to the point than you realize, Chain.

You make a very good, and valid, point in saying that any intelligent and sufficiently advanced alien race would have no reason to do anything with us. I happen to agree with that. Now brace yourself, 'cause I'm about to say something crazy.

I think the UFO phenomenon is essentially a symptom of something we don't really understand. Given the similarity of sightings (round, flat, ovoid craft), the dissimilarity of the experiences (people like us, people unlike us, big-eyed creatures, bugs, robots, etc), and the documented reality of some few experiences (radiation burns, unexplained sickness), I think we're looking at some kind of 'natural' phenomenon that manifests itself to us in ways we don't understand.

To the best of our knowledge, we're the only species we know of with imagination, and that makes us prey to a lot of problems other creatures don't exhibit. Knowing as we do how plants, minerals, and gases have various psychotropic effects, it's not too much of a jump to assume there's some unknown factor in the atmosphere that causes the UFO experiences so many people have reported.

At least, that's the safe (and sane) answer. The unsafe (and, yes, unsane) answer would be: Something from Outside is interacting with us. I don't mean outer space, or outside of our solar system, but Outside, as in 'Outside the bounds of space-time'. I'm not by any means convinced that such a thing is happening, but I'm not UNconvinced either. I think there are many strange things out there, and I think H. P. Lovecraft was right when he said that we are a tiny light of sanity amidst an ocean of darkness and uncertainty. The unknown is scary stuff.

Hmm. Who left this soapbox here?

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ChainLightning
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USA
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Posted - January 12 2007 :  07:08:56 AM  Show Profile Send ChainLightning a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Okay, where's the *crazy* part, there Vain? LOL

All I know... is all I know. I can't say these things do exist and I certainly can't say the DON'T exist. And rather than take sides trying to argue which side (or which explanation) has more credence, I just laugh.


Oh, and sorry about the soapbox... I think the maid is on vacation. I kinda kicked it out of my way, when I came in.

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Vainamoinen
Paganism Forum Moderator



USA
232 Posts

Posted - January 12 2007 :  09:12:37 AM  Show Profile  Visit Vainamoinen's Homepage  Send Vainamoinen an AOL message Send Vainamoinen a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Damn things turn up everywhere I go... ;)

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middleground
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USA
215 Posts

Posted - January 13 2007 :  12:21:44 AM  Show Profile Send middleground a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sorry about the soapbox. I keep forgetting where I put it.

As for my take on UFO's:

I believe life exists in the universe beyond this planet. That is about it. I'm still out on the whole "we are being visited" part.

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radar
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USA
11 Posts

Posted - January 16 2007 :  8:22:01 PM  Show Profile Send radar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
All the replies are very good.
Now next subject is a spin off to UFO's.
AREA 51!
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ChainLightning
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USA
62 Posts

Posted - March 25 2007 :  04:09:31 AM  Show Profile Send ChainLightning a Private Message  Reply with Quote


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Vainamoinen
Paganism Forum Moderator



USA
232 Posts

Posted - March 27 2007 :  08:04:57 AM  Show Profile  Visit Vainamoinen's Homepage  Send Vainamoinen an AOL message Send Vainamoinen a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The UFO is nice, but I still dig the little bat in your icon.

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ChainLightning
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USA
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Posted - March 28 2007 :  01:04:31 AM  Show Profile Send ChainLightning a Private Message  Reply with Quote
hehehe I stumbled on the UFO image while I was looking for some birthday and urinating smilies.



The bat just seemed more appropriate for the circumstances

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middleground
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USA
215 Posts

Posted - March 29 2007 :  12:01:25 AM  Show Profile Send middleground a Private Message  Reply with Quote
urinating smilies?

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