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Buber
Abrahamic Forum Co-Moderator
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 Posted - November 25 2006 : 11:15:19 PM
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Pardon my ignorance, but what is the reason for including the 'k' in magick or musick... etc..
Just curious...
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Vainamoinen
Paganism Forum Moderator
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Posted - November 26 2006 : 12:09:33 AM
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It was first added by occultist and hedonist Aleister Crowley, who founded the school of thought called Thelema. Crowley wanted to show that there was a difference between 'magic'- which at the time was associated with stage magicians and charlatans- and the process of influencing the conscious world through the focusing of the will, which he called 'magick', for want of a better term. Therefore, magic is unknown or miraculous occurrences, and magick is the careful and systematic exploration of the relation between the will and the known world.
Hope that helps a little.
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middleground
Middle Ground Administrator
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Posted - November 26 2006 : 02:01:09 AM
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Vaina, great response. Perfectly worded as well. 
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Buber
Abrahamic Forum Co-Moderator
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Posted - November 26 2006 : 02:37:20 AM
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Thanks, that was quite helpful.
Though does that mean musick is different than music? ;)
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Vainamoinen
Paganism Forum Moderator
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Posted - November 26 2006 : 1:26:07 PM
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MG: Thanks! :)
Buber: Thanks, and nope, it means I'm a smart-ass ;)
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middleground
Middle Ground Administrator
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Posted - November 26 2006 : 11:42:31 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Vainamoinen
...it means I'm a smart-ass
Better a Smart one than a Dumb one, I always say! 
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Buber
Abrahamic Forum Co-Moderator
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Posted - November 27 2006 : 12:09:52 PM
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Better a Smart one than a Dumb one, I always say!
Hear, HEAR! 
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middleground
Middle Ground Administrator
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Posted - November 27 2006 : 11:46:05 PM
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ChainLightning
New Member
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Posted - December 09 2006 : 05:46:03 AM
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It makes a good basis for a debate, too.
The *k* thing, not that bit about *better than a dumb-ass*
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middleground
Middle Ground Administrator
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Posted - December 09 2006 : 10:52:09 PM
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I'd like to hear your views on the *k* thing, Chain.
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ChainLightning
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Posted - December 10 2006 : 03:05:06 AM
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Seriously?
Chilly, to me the *k* is more like hyphenated last names, pretentious BS. I tend to think people apply the usage JUST BECAUSE it makes them feel superior in some *superpower*/metaphysical way. Like Vain, I use the K occasionally, just to be a smart ass, but usually only around folks that know I dislike the insinuation.
I understand trying to differentiate what David Copperfield does (magic) and what spellwork consists of - but, truth be told, it's semantics. Copperfield is an illusionist, not a magician. He doesn't perform magic, he performs magic tricks.
I also feel quite a bit of contempt for that Crowley (et al) aspect of witchcraft. It yanks on my shorthairs as much as *hereditary witchcraft* or the intimation that it's somehow genetic. People can fool themselves into thinking almost anything, but practicing the craft isn't some *secret society* with fancy secret handshakes and passwords to get in a coven. Magic, is still magic. Whether it's *real* or not, whether it's believed or not, or even how it's defined (miracles, anyone?) the word is still the same. It's the people that are different.
All that being said... The addition of a K is usually applied by either modern sorcerers or wannabe witches. Usually. Chaos Magick is still magic, no matter HOW they spell it.
IMO, of course.
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