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middleground
Middle Ground Administrator
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Posted - December 15 2006 : 10:30:16 PM
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I never said anything about freedom or death. Please do not put words down that I did not give impression of, nor actually type. I think it's best if we agree to disagree at this point. Seeing as how we are only polarizing the issue as it is.
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ChainLightning
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Posted - December 16 2006 : 03:45:28 AM
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You'll notice I backed out of it.
*Lumps of clay* or *freedom or death* - we're talking about spritual lessons learned along the path of one's chosen religion. It already IS a polarized issue.
While I give a great amount of credit to the teachers, the people that SHARE their knowledge and experience, I give even more credence to those that learn (about their path) without the benefit of someone else's poking, prodding, guiding, limitations, expectations, knowledge, ignorance, biases, prejudices, opinions, experience or any of the above. It isn't about being molded OR retaining one's freedom. It's about belief. And how that belief evolves.
Whereas I reject the use of a K in the word magic, I also reject someone telling me what to believe. And it doesn't stop there. I also reject the idea that I can learn it ALL, all by myself.
We are all teachers and students. I feel that teachers perform an almost heroic act with people uninterested in learning. I also feel that inquisitive students are pheomenal, even in the presence of lousy teachers. I try to teach what I know and learn all I can. I just don't (and can't) rely on teachers to accomplish that learning.
That's where I start twitching with initiation ceremonies. I did a dedication rite. I feel dedicated - myself, not to some coven leader or elder of whatever order. It's MY path, I need to walk it. It's my feet that hold me up. Other's can't always be depended on to make proper decisions and choices for me - to suit my feelings and beliefs.
That's probably the biggest difference between traditionalists and eclectics. And they're after the SAME THING.
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Vainamoinen
Paganism Forum Moderator
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Posted - December 16 2006 : 04:29:13 AM
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I think you misunderstand me, MG. I mean freedom or death for me. As in a personal credo: "Live free or die." I didn't mean to suggest you had said anything about freedom or death. And yes, the issue is probably polarized. To me your view is restrictive, to you mine is (I'm guessing) wasteful and unfocused. And that's okay.
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